Do thoughts have mass? (Once again, my interests in Noetic science was sparked by Dan Brown)

This would mean, if there were enought thoughts in one group, they would have gravity, gravity affecting the physical world. This would also mean we could affect the physical world with our mind, this theory also coincides with the possibility of humans having higher power over their mind and the physical world, and would probably be able to tap into this power spiritually, or via arcane rituals.

This would mean, that virtually anything is possible.

In my view, thoughts do not have mass. (How would you put a mind onto a scale?)

Id supposed youd have to make a scale for measuring them, and it wouldnt be measured in sense of length weight or depth, but more in potency. Or maybe once we master our minds, we gain new kinds of thought power, which would have weight.


Im not saying they do, I just think its an intersting concepty, in fact Im pretty sure they dont, considering your brain dosent get larger the more you think.

One of the properties of mass is weight in a gravity field. That is quite measurable. What might be a problem is matching any particular thought to any particular change in weight. The quantity of thought in any particular mind at any particular moment is probably difficult to determine. Perhaps an electroencephalograph could manage some sort of technique to indicate mental activity and match it with a weight change but the change, if any, would probably be so minuscule as to be impossible to differentiate from some other physiological activity such as a fart or a burp. I've been farting and burping at intervals throughout my life and discovered no personal power over the universe as a consequence.

a point of zero anywhere in infinity:

there are no dumb questions, are there?
supposed those points were inhabited?

What may be is not necessarily what is.

Thoughts don't need mass to affect the external world. It's simply information-transference. In this day and age, we cannot talk sensibly about the world and about progress unless we talk in terms of information-flow.

That is to say, all reality is energy in flux (flowing), and the means by which we interact within the flow is information-transference. For example, you smell lavender and the every cell in your body receives neurotransmitters in the proper receptors. Your body receives the information, is changed by the information, and radiates information that changes others. You experience a relaxing effect as a result. What it is is a dance of information, between transmitters and receptors.

Ever heard of Masaru Emoto's work on the effects of thought on water? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masaru_Emoto

^hey rabbit!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkbpXRSIUnE

rather than asking whether thoughts do have mass, i would give preference to recognizing that thoughts influence everything, and they travel fast!

TRUTH:


fwiw: radically anarchist thought .... insisting on doing my own brainwashing?

Thoughts are electrochemical signals between neurons, and neurons are cells, so indirectly you could claim that thoughts have mass. The problem is that the you couldn't single out the thoughts because they are the effect of neurons. Hence there is no way of measuring the weight of a thought.

It is a somewhat grey area, but most would draw the line at the neuron and not include the thought as mass. A thought is a chemical process, and just as people wouldn't say "a nuclear explosion weights... or a car crash weights" it's somewhat misguiding to talk about weight of thoughts. Instead of the physical dimensions and how we measure them, in terms of density, length, height, weight etc we have other ways of measuring the effects of physical phenomenon.

Everyone can imagine a situation where gravity effects our brains, for example in heavy gravity or in zero gravity, where in both cases a human body would implode/explode. This would of course effect our thoughts, since it's hard to think about something without a brain.

To get to the point about Dan Browns psychic power theory, the most extensive research done on any supernatural phenomenon is regarding telekenisis and mind reading. So far no one has been able to present any actual evidence that such a thing exists, and this is most certainly not due to lack of funding. Organizations all the way from the scientologist community to NASA have supported pointless research in this field.

A newly released movie about such a project is "The Men Who Stare at Goats"

thoughts have mass appeal, obviously. with grave effects to what is called the psyche: depression.

mind reading and anything tele... are so normal, that it beats the common awareness of how it functions naturally.

ai? if you can't turn it off, turn away.

imho, naturally.

As long as we're getting into puns, how about light verse. Has it got less mass than heavy verse? Then, of course we have to consider subverse, converse, perverse, reverse, and universe. Universe, it seems likely, has a respectable mass.

less mass, more energy. how is this measured, huh?

power comes out of a plug. usually.

which answers the mass appeal question, to certain extents.
another one would be asking for the difference between lights and luminaries, perhaps.

does charm have a weight, like mass?

baroque didn't last though. sibelius took on (2?) another heavyness.

Although Catholics have mass, it seems to me to be rather thoughtless routine ceremony so there's a problem.

were all these theories discovered by one person at a time pushing an idea forward, or was there always a dialog, like inner "reasoning" and conversations
with other people.

i am asking the question specifically with respect to test and exam situations.

^if you please... with a welcoming hi!

The mind-body probem certainly persists even today. Certain scientists will not entertain a though which is non-physical, whilst others say ''yeh, there's a physical mechanism.... but... it's not really a physical thing.''

As i concluded above, if our experiences (those personal inner feelings and emotions) cannot be weighed as you would expect with using kg for mass, then thoughts are purely manifested within an imaginary world (a world we all share and experience).

Parts of me would like to see a totally solpsistic idea (since the world is certainly ''recreated in here'' from observations made ''out there'') then in this experience, there is a side to the world which is not fundamentally physically, so thoughts may be a little bit of both - caused by physical interactions, but experience of those actions are reinterpreted ethereally.

was that your answer to my question?

what causes fear? a physical threat? would that not be preceded by thought patterns impacting on someone else's organism, but thus strengthening one's own? is mass then still relevant?

Mind that matter is relevent, but that the matter of the mind is not.

I don't know what universe you people live in but my thoughts have been affecting my physical world all my life. I couldn't get a cup of coffee without thinking about it first.

But am aware of information entering my nervous system.