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MagnetMan

 | Subject: General Intelligence Quotient GIQ Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:36 pm | |
| My intelligence has been frequently insulted by the following remark ""Who do you think you are? Einstein?"
Maths is not my bag In that arena I do not think I am Einstein nor do I think I am Babe Ruth in the baseball arena
But I do not think Einstein was more intelligent than I Or Babe Ruth more physically accomplished than I I can more or less guarantee that if any sportsman or any Mensa member were stranded with me on a desert island we would soon see how level the general intelligence quotient is the simple fact is that we are all the collective survivors of 100,000 generations of human development all born with the same basic mix of genes and the same on-going survival potentials
In this general sense nobody is more intelligent than another our different levels of natural expertise in the sciences and arts and crafts and sports are related to a vastly complex system of natural selection related to our collectuive survival each one of us is born with a specific ability that contributes to the evolution of the the psyche of the whole
This is an area of specific intelligence quotas and their inter-relationships that our education system has barely begun to explore or make the best of and while we continue to evaluate people at artificially elevated superior levels of intelligence and reward them beyond others for a genius that rightfully belongs to the species as a whole the evolution of the specie will continue to unnecessarily suffer all kinds of individual feelings of inferiority and collective depressions
Einstein's genius is pointless if it is not related to the genius of the global culture that supports it and that support is dependent on the genius of every soul keeping the specie from extinction
there is not a single worker in any field of social support that is not born with the genius to excel at the labor he or she is assigned to
Einstein and the Joe the janitor are born from the same original seed of intelligence their General Intelligence Quotient given the specific education opportunity related to their specific natural ability is precisely equal |
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Guest Guest
 | Subject: Re: General Intelligence Quotient GIQ Wed Oct 27, 2010 10:08 pm | |
| I'm sorry but teach in the public schools for a few years, and then tell me that all people have equal intellignce. I would agree that different people have different talents and abilities, but intellectually all people are NOT created equal. |
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MagnetMan

 | Subject: Re: General Intelligence Quotient GIQ Wed Oct 27, 2010 10:26 pm | |
| | thedoc wrote: | | I'm sorry but teach in the public schools for a few years, and then tell me that all people have equal intellignce. I would agree that different people have different talents and abilities, but intellectually all people are NOT created equal. |
That is exactly the point doc the majority of the kids in public school are not purely academic material after basic primary school instills literacy and basic math they should each be in taught in schools more suited to their natural genius since no state can afford a vast and varied education system or the infrastructure to support same is why I advocate national home-schooling fully supported by the state Before the era of state education son's apprenticed to their father' trade or craft females learned domestic science from their mothers similar genes worked together there were no failures
I also believe that co-education is totally unnatural and as a result is the underlying cause of so much failure in the classroom nature has designed the gender difference for specific reasons of collective survival
men naturally master inventive application and mechanical sciences women naturally master social management and domestic sciences
you cannot successfully teach apples and oranges in the same classroom |
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Guest Guest
 | Subject: Re: General Intelligence Quotient GIQ Wed Oct 27, 2010 10:38 pm | |
| Good points, I basicly agree, Please excuse my bias from my experience teaching. I also know that some students bad attitude toward school comes from the parents who do not value education. |
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Guest Guest
 | Subject: Re: General Intelligence Quotient GIQ Wed Oct 27, 2010 10:56 pm | |
| Home Schooling may be a good choice in many cases, but I will say that there are some cases where the parents do not have the ability or the aptitude, and in a few cfases do not have the interest, to give the proper guidance to their children. There are some parents who have children but should NOT have had them, and these are the children who will fail without intervention and standardized education, which as bad as it is, is still better than nothing. |
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Guest Guest
 | Subject: Re: General Intelligence Quotient GIQ Wed Oct 27, 2010 11:07 pm | |
| There is a store in my area that sells hand crafted items, imported from under developed or undeveloped countries. One of the lines that grates on my nerves is the phrase that they only sell items from "Fairly paid adult labor." When I questioned this the response was that the children should be in school. The problem is that in many of these countries there are no schools and the only way for the children to learn anything is at the side of the parents learning the trade or craft. By refusing to sell items that a child has helped to make they are denying that child the oportinity to learn, by hands-on experience, a craft with which they can earn a living in a remote area. I have seen similar comments on different subjects from people who seem to think that there is a school or store just arround the corner every where around the world. They don't seen to comprehend that there are some areas so remote that there is little or nothing avaliable to buy. |
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MagnetMan

 | Subject: Re: General Intelligence Quotient GIQ Thu Oct 28, 2010 5:04 pm | |
| | thedoc wrote: | | Home Schooling may be a good choice in many cases, but I will say that there are some cases where the parents do not have the ability or the aptitude, and in a few cfases do not have the interest, to give the proper guidance to their children. There are some parents who have children but should NOT have had them, and these are the children who will fail without intervention and standardized education, which as bad as it is, is still better than nothing. |
As it stands today sure there are many irresponsible parents alive on the planet but the vast majority are good parents or want to be good parents
we cannot continue to let the minority of dysfunctional people determine how we govern ourselves policing and jail and fines are useless for correction only good examples really work
So let us start and set good parenting examples and stop stalling and handicapping ourselves unnecessarily by the action of the bad eggs |
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Guest Guest
 | Subject: Re: General Intelligence Quotient GIQ Thu Oct 28, 2010 8:06 pm | |
| | MagnetMan wrote: | | thedoc wrote: | | Home Schooling may be a good choice in many cases, but I will say that there are some cases where the parents do not have the ability or the aptitude, and in a few cfases do not have the interest, to give the proper guidance to their children. There are some parents who have children but should NOT have had them, and these are the children who will fail without intervention and standardized education, which as bad as it is, is still better than nothing. |
As it stands today sure there are many irresponsible parents alive on the planet but the vast majority are good parents or want to be good parents
we cannot continue to let the minority of dysfunctional people determine how we govern ourselves policing and jail and fines are useless for correction only good examples really work
So let us start and set good parenting examples and stop stalling and handicapping ourselves unnecessarily by the action of the bad eggs |
I agree, home schooling needs to be more easily avalable with some financial consideration. As it stands now we are taxed for public schools whether we use it or not. |
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Jonathan Ainsley Bain

 | Subject: Re: General Intelligence Quotient GIQ Sat Oct 30, 2010 11:56 am | |
| It would save the govts a massive amount of money if they sponsored apprenticeships so that kids without access to skills, can get the skills that they need.
Beyond primary school, its 95% useless content.
Rather get an A in primary school, and then let the govt pay somebody to teach that kid something useful.
In the world of I.T. and more and more other areas too, the 20th century teaching methods just no longer apply.
are skills like I.T. gender-specific? |
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imp-pulse

 | Subject: Re: General Intelligence Quotient GIQ Sat Oct 30, 2010 1:09 pm | |
| \!!
yes, absolutely.
but .... part of efficiency must be REAL intelligence (to be) activating a VOLUNTEERS teaching efforts. |
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Jonathan Ainsley Bain

 | Subject: Re: General Intelligence Quotient GIQ Sun Oct 31, 2010 2:54 pm | |
| when i volunteered to do teaching the union blocked it because it would undermine the paid teachers or some other such hooiey
~ this type of thing is a major impediment to education the world over ~ as well as business
how many times i've been told my proposal was the best but then they choose the worst more expensive one because of blatant kickbacks
and its money donated by (quite likely) your govt that is getting corrupted in kickbacks and other boondoggles
when people blindly throw money at education they get corruption, which is far worse than mere illiteracy
if more 'dvelopment' money was in private hands, then the money is more effective because it has to be accounted for
giving billions to one corrupt politician causes more problems than it solves, but then thats the plot, eh? |
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imp-pulse

 | Subject: Re: General Intelligence Quotient GIQ Sun Oct 31, 2010 3:20 pm | |
| yes, and more yes.
in order to be incorruptible, it seems you must live a poor life, yet somehow keep up a tremendous mental strength.
let it be said, for women this type of "dictatorship" is even worse! |
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Jonathan Ainsley Bain

 | Subject: Re: General Intelligence Quotient GIQ Sun Oct 31, 2010 3:27 pm | |
| | Quote: | | let it be said, for women this type of "dictatorship" is even worse! |
then how much worse for the kids! |
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Guest Guest
 | Subject: Re: General Intelligence Quotient GIQ Sun Oct 31, 2010 3:45 pm | |
| | imp-pulse wrote: | let it be said, for women this type of "dictatorship" is even worse! |
Any type of 'Dictatorship' over women or any individual or group is unacceptable. Children however do not have the maturity and experience to always make wise choices, so some form of guidance is necessary. You may choose to call it 'dictatorship' but I prefer to call it 'good parenting', and I admit there exists 'bad parenting' at times and for this some assistance would be advised. But unless there is serious danger intervention should be avoided. |
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MagnetMan

 | Subject: Re: General Intelligence Quotient GIQ Mon Nov 01, 2010 3:43 pm | |
| | thedoc wrote: |
Any type of 'Dictatorship' over women or any individual or group is unacceptable. Children however do not have the maturity and experience to always make wise choices, so some form of guidance is necessary. You may choose to call it 'dictatorship' but I prefer to call it 'good parenting', and I admit there exists 'bad parenting' at times and for this some assistance would be advised. But unless there is serious danger intervention should be avoided. |
A family group is best ruled via benevolent dictatorship whether by father or mother preferably both working together in complete harmony of purpose there can be no democracy with in an under-age group
The USA a young under Age nation thus democracy does not work here all we see is endless bickering
In such circumstance where disagreement and inequality reigns Bertrand Russel proposed Benevolent Dictatorship as the best form of government Plato in his Philosopher/King also suggested same
Social structures throughout Nature agree with that either via female or male
So do I
Victoria was the best governor England ever had Elizabeth I was not too bad either in the USA FDR came close Castro ruled far better than Batista Mao, though a might too tyrannical, pulled China up by its bootstraps |
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Guest Guest
 | Subject: Re: General Intelligence Quotient GIQ Mon Nov 01, 2010 7:52 pm | |
| Agreed, and I would equate a 'benevolent dictatorship' with 'Good Parenting'. |
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imp-pulse

 | Subject: Re: General Intelligence Quotient GIQ Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:20 pm | |
| oh sure, can a feasibility study be done online, for the global village? |
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Guest Guest
 | Subject: Re: General Intelligence Quotient GIQ Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:28 pm | |
| Why don't you do it and let us know what you find out? |
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Guest Guest
 | Subject: Re: General Intelligence Quotient GIQ Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:35 pm | |
| Perhaps we should have a pole for the 'Good Parenting' award on this site. While I can think of many who would be excluded it is more difficult to propose whose who should be considered. |
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imp-pulse

 | Subject: Re: General Intelligence Quotient GIQ Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:44 pm | |
| it should be documented. good luck with retrieving the data. |
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Guest Guest
 | Subject: Re: General Intelligence Quotient GIQ Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:50 pm | |
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MagnetMan

 | Subject: Re: General Intelligence Quotient GIQ Tue Nov 02, 2010 12:26 am | |
| Hey does anybody know what happens when you cross a penis with a potato? |
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imp-pulse

 | Subject: Re: General Intelligence Quotient GIQ Tue Nov 02, 2010 1:01 am | |
| | MagnetMan wrote: | Hey does anybody know what happens when you cross a penis with a potato? |
not really not yet but some plastinator may make such a progressive method of preserving dead bodies a public spectacle: the making of, watch in real life time?
but such could, in no time at all, shape the belief in rationality crossed with aesthetics, wow, mind-boggling, isn't it - and yes, tainting one's memory with it.
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Guest Guest
 | Subject: Re: General Intelligence Quotient GIQ Tue Nov 02, 2010 1:36 am | |
| | MagnetMan wrote: | Hey does anybody know what happens when you cross a penis with a potato? |
Cooked or uncooked? |
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imp-pulse

 | Subject: Re: General Intelligence Quotient GIQ Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:40 pm | |
| giq!
when the first question coming to mind is an all-out effort to formulate a CUI BONO?
why don't you do
yes, why!
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MagnetMan

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Guest Guest
 | Subject: Re: General Intelligence Quotient GIQ Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:51 pm | |
| And if they are cut in strips and deep-fried it would be a French Dick-tator. (A Napoleon?) Would the deep-frier be a Waterloo? |
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MagnetMan

 | Subject: Re: General Intelligence Quotient GIQ Tue Nov 02, 2010 10:03 pm | |
| | thedoc wrote: | | And if they are cut in strips and deep-fried it would be a French Dick-tator. (A Napoleon?) Would the deep-frier be a Waterloo? |
are we getting a might too cockeyed here?
good thread this tho GIQ making quantum ejaculations in dick-sionary dick-tations |
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