Will the REAL NEW YEAR please stand up ?

Subject: Will the REAL NEW YEAR please stand up ? Fri Jan 01, 2010 9:50 pm

millions of people throughout the world have been celebrating what they think is the beginning of a new year yesterday and today , depending on where you live and what your time zone is , but let us look at a few facts ...A new year starts when the SUN has finished its downward declination south of the celestial equator, and appears to stand still for a day or two around DEC 21ST-22ND which is the winter solstice ,before it starts its return journey back to the northern hemisphere and north of the celestial equator , therefore the start of a new year for the northern hemisphere which awaits the return of the SUN in spring , is DECEMBER 21ST-22ND , thats when the astronomical new year starts, so why are we celebrating it today ?.. Surprised

2010
Event Date Time (UT)
Perihelion January 3 00
Vernal (Spring) Equinox March 20 17:32
Summer Solstice June 21 11:28
Aphelion July 6 11
Autumnal Equinox September 23 03:09
Winter Solstice December 21 23:38

Subject: Re: Will the REAL NEW YEAR please stand up ? Fri Jan 01, 2010 10:50 pm

brian1939 wrote:

thats when the astronomical new year starts, so why are we celebrating it today ?.. Surprised

Otherwise, how could we sell commemorative NYE mugs and t-shirts?

Subject: Re: Will the REAL NEW YEAR please stand up ? Fri Jan 01, 2010 11:36 pm

rhinosaur wrote:

brian1939 wrote:

thats when the astronomical new year starts, so why are we celebrating it today ?.. Surprised

Otherwise, how could we sell commemorative NYE mugs and t-shirts?

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Exactly !...whats a little accuracy and truth compared to all the millions of £/$ to be made on false but convenient information.

SINGS " money makes the world go around ..he he he ...la la laaaaa."...same with xmas , how are all those santas

gonna make a living and the superstore owners getting rich on all the lovelly warm xmasy things that they sell to us so we can live in warm comfort zone while the owners fly off in their private jets to their houses in whatever island paradise they fancy ...dont rock the boat !...

Guest

brian1939 wrote:

millions of people throughout the world have been celebrating what they think is the beginning of a new year yesterday and today , depending on where you live and what your time zone is , but let us look at a few facts ...A new year starts when the SUN has finished its downward declination south of the celestial equator, and appears to stand still for a day or two around DEC 21ST-22ND which is the winter solstice ,before it starts its return journey back to the northern hemisphere and north of the celestial equator , therefore the start of a new year for the northern hemisphere which awaits the return of the SUN in spring , is DECEMBER 21ST-22ND , thats when the astronomical new year starts, so why are we celebrating it today ?.. Surprised

2010
Event Date Time (UT)
Perihelion January 3 00
Vernal (Spring) Equinox March 20 17:32
Summer Solstice June 21 11:28
Aphelion July 6 11
Autumnal Equinox September 23 03:09
Winter Solstice December 21 23:38

Convience and Profit, Starting with Halloween and Thanksgiving you have a long Shopping season for retailers to make money. As mentioned elswhere Christmas was set for political/religious reasons not historical accuracy, and new years a week later made for a nice long holliday. We could very easily shift the calander so that Jan 1 fell on the Winter Solstice, but what would it matter. I am not aware of anyone actually celibrating the Solstice, and the celebration in no way effects the actual event. - - - BTW is anyone here familiar with the begining of the song 'White Christmas' The original did not start with 'I'm dreaming' but with the words 'The sun is shining, and the grass is green, the orange and palm trees sway'. This part was dropped when the song was used in the movie, it didn't make sense to be singing about being in Beverly Hills L.A. when singing in Vermont. A lot of things are done for no good reason, just profit.

Subject: Re: Will the REAL NEW YEAR please stand up ? Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:05 pm

thedoc wrote:

brian1939 wrote:

millions of people throughout the world have been celebrating what they think is the beginning of a new year yesterday and today , depending on where you live and what your time zone is , but let us look at a few facts ...A new year starts when the SUN has finished its downward declination south of the celestial equator, and appears to stand still for a day or two around DEC 21ST-22ND which is the winter solstice ,before it starts its return journey back to the northern hemisphere and north of the celestial equator , therefore the start of a new year for the northern hemisphere which awaits the return of the SUN in spring , is DECEMBER 21ST-22ND , thats when the astronomical new year starts, so why are we celebrating it today ?.. Surprised

2010
Event Date Time (UT)
Perihelion January 3 00
Vernal (Spring) Equinox March 20 17:32
Summer Solstice June 21 11:28
Aphelion July 6 11
Autumnal Equinox September 23 03:09
Winter Solstice December 21 23:38

Convience and Profit, Starting with Halloween and Thanksgiving you have a long Shopping season for retailers to make money. As mentioned elswhere Christmas was set for political/religious reasons not historical accuracy, and new years a week later made for a nice long holliday. We could very easily shift the calander so that Jan 1 fell on the Winter Solstice, but what would it matter. I am not aware of anyone actually celibrating the Solstice, and the celebration in no way effects the actual event. - - - BTW is anyone here familiar with the begining of the song 'White Christmas' The original did not start with 'I'm dreaming' but with the words 'The sun is shining, and the grass is green, the orange and palm trees sway'. This part was dropped when the song was used in the movie, it didn't make sense to be singing about being in Beverly Hills L.A. when singing in Vermont. A lot of things are done for no good reason, just profit.

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agreed as the popular song goes , " money makes the world go around"

Guest

agreed as the popular song goes , " money makes the world go around"

Unfortunatly this going around seems to be in a downward spiral, as in down the drain.

Subject: Re: Will the REAL NEW YEAR please stand up ? Sun Jan 03, 2010 8:11 pm

thedoc wrote:

agreed as the popular song goes , " money makes the world go around"

Unfortunatly this going around seems to be in a downward spiral, as in down the drain.

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Agreed !...but as long as the rich get richer and the poor get poorer, the money power men are quite happy with the situation.

Guest

brian1939 wrote:

thedoc wrote:

agreed as the popular song goes , " money makes the world go around"

Unfortunatly this going around seems to be in a downward spiral, as in down the drain.

.

Agreed !...but as long as the rich get richer and the poor get poorer, the money power men are quite happy with the situation.

I told you we could agree on something ! Smile

Guest

on the event horizon, yeah!

Subject: Re: Will the REAL NEW YEAR please stand up ? Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:53 pm

lavender orchid wrote:

on the event horizon, yeah!

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ooooooooooh lavender , you are aaaaaaaaaaaaawful.
but i like you , but its probably a temporary phase that will soon pass off .

Guest

huh?
be clear about awful and awsome, that would make any pass (off) fair at least.

Subject: Re: Will the REAL NEW YEAR please stand up ? Tue Jan 05, 2010 11:00 pm

lavender orchid wrote:

huh?
be clear about awful and awsome, that would make any pass (off) fair at least.

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I know you are not a doormat lavender , so get up off the floor ...

Subject: Re: Will the REAL NEW YEAR please stand up ? Tue Jan 05, 2010 11:07 pm

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