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MonoExplosion




PostSubject: No mind body dichotomy   Mon May 18, 2009 2:24 pm

If this is true, and for this topic I am assuming the affirmative, then do you believe that if somebody says something stupid, then that makes them stupid?
Because if this is true, then surely if somebody kicks a ball, then they are a kick of a ball too... or something to that effect...
I hope I am not stupid.

This is relying on the idea that you are your body... Or at least, your body and your mind do not exist as two seperate functions, they are one and the same.
Therefore, mental activity is the same as physical activity, and so

rules you apply to the inferences of a mind apply to the body also.
therefore, I concluded that if somebody is 'stupid' because they think and say something stupid, then they are any adjective/noun based on the action that they undertake - ie, the kicking action makes them 'a kick...' just as the 'stupid words they say make them 'a stupid...'

Would this lead to ultimate discombobulation and a new paradigm in the way we interact and think?

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Effort




PostSubject: Re: No mind body dichotomy   Mon May 18, 2009 4:56 pm

First comes the body, then comes the mind.

The fact that we have learned to over-rate the value and importance of our self-consciousness doesn't entitle us to believe that such a consciousness is anything more than a function of our brain, i.e., our physical body...

No body, no soul.
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quetzalcoatl




PostSubject: Re: No mind body dichotomy   Wed May 20, 2009 11:54 pm

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do you believe that if somebody says something stupid, then that makes them stupid?


No that makes a specific stupid statement stupid, they may well otherwise be a genius.

Equally it is incorrect to judge a man by his deeds. A man may be one thing yet have to act in another way to suit given needs/environmental pressures etc. These things don’t make a mind-body duality, they should just be seen as specific in their rightful context.

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if somebody kicks a ball, then they are a kick of a ball too... or something to that effect...


Then they are someone kicking a ball. The ‘kick of a ball’ being the act of, the person being the perpetrator of the act.
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lorsban




PostSubject: Re: No mind body dichotomy   Thu May 28, 2009 7:13 am

Hello MonoExplosion,

The union of body and mind is not a new concept. In fact, in eastern philosophy, the mind and body are seen as deeply interconnected, seen as two parts of a whole. Take a look at yoga, meditation, accupuncture etc...all of these work with both the mind and body, treating it as one. That's why in meditation or in clearing the mind, controlling your breathing is vital. Same with accupuncture, to cure a headache, the specialist places a needle in specific points on your body.

Modern science has already proven what eastern philosophy has known all along. That the mind is part of the whole. Not a separate entity on it's own. Because the mind develops in conjunction with the body. It creates synaptic pathways based on what the body senses and functions based on how the various parts interact with the outside environment.

Without this interaction, the mind or brain will not develop - there is a case where a young girl was seen strapped onto a chair in a dark basement with no other stimulation other than her father bringing her food. When she was brought out, she had the mental capacity of a toddler and she didn't have the capability to link words together to form a sentence. Apparently, the stage of development wherein the person develops this skill was cut, so she practically missed her chance. What this shows is that the mind is heavily reliant on the stimulants that the body receives. The mind cannot develop without this deep connection with the body.

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